169 "Silence": The Vatican Between the Rise and Fall of Fascism
The Vatican, the world's smallest sovereign state, is also the spiritual fortress for the hearts and minds of hundreds of millions. In this episode, Sha [Qingqing] invites Dr. Lou Tianxiong, a specialist in modern religion and international relations, to discuss the diplomatic maneuvering between the Vatican, Fascist Italy, and Nazi Germany before and after World War II. Faced with catastrophe and wartime atrocities, why did Pope Pius XII, the pontiff at the time, choose "silence"? Was it collusion with power? Or was it strategic self-preservation? Did the resistance movement within Germany ever use the Vatican's covert channels to transmit intelligence? And how did the Vatican leverage its religious influence to navigate among the various camps?
Original Chinese title & description
169 “沉默”：法西斯兴衰间的梵蒂冈
梵蒂冈，那个世界上最小的主权国家，却又是亿万人心灵的精神堡垒。本期节目，沙老师邀请到专攻近代宗教与国际关系领域的楼天雄博士围绕二战前后梵蒂冈与法西斯意大利、纳粹德国的外交博弈展开探讨。面对浩劫与战争暴行，时任教宗庇护十二世为何选择“沉默”？这是与强权同流合污？还是策略性的自保？德国内部对的抵抗运动是否曾经借助梵蒂冈的隐秘渠道传递情报？梵蒂冈又如何依托宗教影响力在各个阵营中周旋？
Participation credit “本期参与者”：沙青青（微信公众号：13号埋立地、小红书：Sha-13号埋立地）。
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